Name confusion: "Freestyle: Artistic"? "Artistic Freestyle"?


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Throughout the rulebook there are mentions of "Freestyle: Artistic" and  "Artistic Freestyle"

And then, referring to a routine done by one person, I found "Individual Freestyle". Which technically could be either "Freestyle: Artistic Individual" OR "Freestyle: X-Style Individual".

 

I propose we have a consistent naming. When referring to the events of Individual, Pairs, Group, and X-Style, what name should be used?

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Thoughts?

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I suggest that Artistic is used  as the catch-all-term for Individual Freestyle, Pairs Freestyle, Group Freestyle, X-Style and Standard Skill.

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Right now, the Rulebook is dividied into three Freestyle sections: Freestyle - Artistic, Freestyle - Standard Skill, and Freestyle - X-Style. I think this makes a lot of sense because individual, pairs, and group freestyles are the only ones where there is an artistic component that is being awarded points. This doesn't happen with either X-Style or Standard Skill so I do not think it makes sense to use the word artistic for those disciplines. 

I think it makes sense to say Artistic Individual Freestyle, Artistic Pairs Freestyle, and Artistic Group Freestyle. And then X-Style Individual Freestyle or Standard Skill Individual Freestyle.

Freestyle is the discipline. Individual, Pairs, and Group is the quantity. Artistic, X-Style, and Standard Skill are the sub-disciplines. In the same way that Urban has Flatland and Street, etc.

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First of all, I would agree with Connie that we should have consistent naming within the Rulebook. So we should always name the same discipline the same way and be clear about it.

I would also agree with Patricia that "Artistic" is indeed an appropriate generic term for the individual, pair and group routines. Another question is, of course, whether this term is also used by the riders and whether - if this is not the case - we should derive from this to adjust the naming.

Since X-Style and Standard Skill are in principle only individual disciplines (at least I don't know about any Group Standard Skill competition and the rules for it are actually not included in the IUF Ruelbook), it is logical from my point of view to name this disciplines only "X-Style" or "Standard Skill", because this makes sufficiently clear which discipline is meant. And in my opinion, these are also the terms used among athletes for these disciplines. I can't think of anyone who calls the discipline "X-Style Freestyle" or "X-Style Individual Freestyle" - the same applies to Standard Skill. But of course this does not speak against naming the chapters in the rulebook "Freestyle: X-Style" and "Freestyle: Standard Skill", because both disciplines belong to Freestyle. In Track, for example, the disciplines are also not called "Track 100 m", but only "100 m", even if it is of course a Track discipline, which is in the Rulebook under the chapter "Track".
From my point of view, it gets complicated with the Individual, Pair and Group disciplines from the current artistic part - in Germany, for example, these disciplines are simply called "Einzelkür", "Paarkür" and "Gruppenkür" - all three are freestyle disciplines, which somehow belong to a subcategory, but this is not named in Germany. The names " Einzelkür", "Paarkür" and "Gruppenkür" are therefore the usual and unique names for these disciplines in Germany. If one wants to translate the names into English, then the most appropriate translation is perhaps indeed "Individual Freestyle", "Pair Freestyle" and "Group Freestyle" - and this is how the disciplines are usually labeled on start and result lists right now, right? However, the name of the discipline does include the superior category "Freestyle". From my point of view this does not bother me, because among the riders the superior category is not mentioned and so the disciplines are simply called " Individual Freestyle", "Pair Freestyle" and "Group Freestyle".

The question that I ask myself here is: Is it therefore damatic that the chapter of "Individual Freestyle", "Pair Freestyle" and "Group Freestyle" in the Rulebook is called "Freestyle: Artistic", even if nobody actually uses the superordinate term "Artistic"? I would say no...
Of course, as written at the beginning, we should make sure that the disciplines are always and everywhere named the same in the rulebook, so that we are consistent here.

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I'm fine with Jan's suggestion for XStyle and Standard Skill. I agree that the term individual is assumed with those.

I also understand the point of using language that people are already using but also think that the Rulebook can influence a potential shift in people's language as well. And additionally the purpose of the Rulebook is for clarity so I would prefer to err on the side of being clear over using the exact language that people already tend to use. We could go with Individual Artistic Freestyle, Pairs Artistic Freestyle and Group Artistic Freestyle.

I agree that the overall goal is consistency throughout the Rulebook.


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